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Thread: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    A 604's XO point is well above the cab's 'sphere of influence', so has no bearing on its design/performance. The baffle area OTOH affects baffle step diffraction requirements [if any], but as long as the XO is adjustable it can usually be dialed in. Worst case, additional series resistance may be required if a very narrow baffle is used, so the rule-of-thumb is to maintain the same [or larger] baffle width as the cab the speaker was 'voiced' in.

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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    Do you know what baffle width the 604 was originally voiced with?

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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    Quote Originally Posted by gortnipper View Post
    Sorry - I cant give you any meaningful advice about those xo's, but they should work fine in GM's speaker design, I would think. I would think that there may be diffs in the sim with a 604E vs. a GPA 604-8H-III, but he would know far better than I. But you would need the series-R.
    I did find this: Thiele Small Parameter measurement question for a 604E. I'm going to lean on a buddy to get them built correctly. Needless to say, I'm going to just keep the 604E's. Thanks for all your help.

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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    Which 604? If you mean what GPA sells, you'll have to ask them. For all I know, the XO they sell has enough adjustability to cover every size ever recommended.

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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    Sorry, meant the 604E since that was what the OP is looking for help on.

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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    The E has a simple, generic XO with adjustable HF, so I assume it was voiced in a 620.

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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    shouldnt we be using a minimum of 30 inch baffles?
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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    Well, it's my preference since it lowers the baffle step to around 100 Hz, so even a 24" deep cab is acceptable if up close to a wall.

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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    Quote Originally Posted by stlblue View Post
    I typed out a long reply & then a storm wiped out the Internet and everything I typed. Anyway, thanks for the replies.
    Stlblue - The board is supposed to have an auto-save feature,just for stuff like this.You just have to bring it back up and it should have saved your post.. I'll look into why your post wasn't saved.Sorry about that.

    I have had that happen to me many times and is very frustrating.

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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Altec Best View Post
    Stlblue - The board is supposed to have an auto-save feature,just for stuff like this.You just have to bring it back up and it should have saved your post.. I'll look into why your post wasn't saved.Sorry about that.

    I have had that happen to me many times and is very frustrating.
    No worries. I saw that it was auto-saving, but when I hit the button to post, my Internet was out, due to the storm. Not sure what happened after that. Thanks

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